@bzg we used Slack at my last employer. At my current one, we started using Teams just a few months ago. I've been a longtime IRC user though, so i never see these things as anything more than fancier IRC networks.
@coldacid @bzg Isn't use of Slack dictated by project managers and not subordinate project members? Other than bitching and moaning, I don't see how a regular employee could refuse to use Slack unless it's a dysfunctional organization.
My company doesn't use Slack. We use Skypeforbusiness text messaging for most things that were phone calls 25 years ago. Project communication is all in asynchronous issue trackers and wikis.
@coldacid @bzg live conversations, in my company, are NOT documentation and record. The only exception is when someone says "I'm saving this, okay?" and then cleans it up, adds a summary, and drops it in a wiki page.
That seems to be the core problem with how people use Slack; they pretend you don't need to summarize and document things.
> I don't see how a regular employee could refuse to use #Slack
By signing up you are creating a #contract between them and you. Assuming that you live in a country where freedom of association is a protected right (any liberal #democracy), your employer cannot demand that you enter into an agreement with a random third party. All the more so if they don't even provide #liability coverage.
@bzg I did.
To be honest, it's inconvenient for others, but they managed.
It's no different than leaving Facebook or Twitter or any other social network. People will call/email more, and only when they REALLY need you.
@Bishop Thanks for sharing this experience, it gives me hope.
@bzg almost in my case, current alternative: keybase
@bzg I'm really fed up of it. Once you have more than 5/6 Slack teams there's no sensible way of following them consistently and either I end up ignoring them all for weeks on end or get stuck in a dopamine loop checking them one-by-one for new messages.
@bzg depends on what you work on.
Major OSS projects are slowly transitioning to Matrix and Slack isn’t as widespread as in the rest of the corporate world
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